Rath'at al Kabir/ Suckling the Grown Man:-                


       This most unusual and astounding verse is among the verses that are missing from the Quran although Aisha insists that it existed. Presumably, one or more of the memorisers of this verse had died or were killed before the Uthmanic collection of the Quran. This verse was presumably 'revealed' to  Muhammad to allow a male who is not a member of the immediate family to become one by suckling a female of the family.

        A man suckles the breast of a grown woman so that he can be allowed to visit the females of the family as if he was born among them.

Where for is Chastity?

Morality?

Decency?

Logic?

In the Quran and its followers?

Al-Muwatta Hadith   Hadith 30.4
Suckling of the Young
Yahya related to me from Malik from Thawr ibn Zayd ad-Dili that Abdullah ibn Abbas said, "The milk which a child under two years old sucks, even if it is only one suck, makes the foster relatives haram."

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 30.5
Suckling of the Young
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab from Amr ibn ash-Sharid that Abdullah ibn Abbas was asked whether, if a man had two wives, and one of them nursed a slave-boy, and the other had nursed a slave-girl, could the slave-boy marry the slave-girl.
He said, "No. The husband is the same."

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 30.7
Suckling of the Young
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Salim ibn Abdullah ibn Umar informed him that A'isha umm al-muminin sent him away while he was being nursed to her sister Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and said, "Suckle him ten times so that he can come in to see me."
Salim said, "Umm Kulthum nursed me three times and then fell ill, so that she only nursed me three times. I could not go in to see A'isha because Umm Kulthum did not finish for me the ten times."

       *** Although it is written above that this is for the suckling of the young, it is absolutely not true in the above case nor in numerous others in the Ahadith since in fact this 'process' is called 'Suckling of the Grown Ups'.

        Salim was a man and not a child when he suckled the breast of a woman, in this case Umm Kulthum  just so that he can visit Aisha.

        A man - not a child or even a teenager - a complete stranger, was allowed to do such an intimate and sexual act with a woman who is neither his wife nor a prostitute, but a presumably an upright and chaste female; Aisha's own sister, and yet, not a single follower of Muhammad has found anything morally wrong or even obscene throughout 1400 years of history***

Al-Muwatta Hadith   Hadith 30.8
Suckling of the Young
Yahya related to me from Malik from Nafi that Safiyya bint Abi Ubayd told him that Hafsa, umm al-muminin, sent Asim ibn Abdullah ibn Sad to her sister Fatima bint Umar ibn al-Khattab for her to suckle him ten times so that he could come in to see her. She did it, so he used to come in to see her.

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 30.9
Suckling of the Young
Yahya related to me from Malik from Abd ar-Rahman ibn al-Qasim that his father told him that A'isha, the wife of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, admitted those whom her sisters and the daughters of her brother had nursed, and she did not admit those who were nursed by the wives of her brothers.                 

         *** Those who visited Aisha were not children or teenagers, but grown men. The above admissions boggle the mind in their total lack of morality, decency or chastity.

       What is the purpose of veiling a 'chaste Muslim woman' if she can allow strange men to suck her nipples so that they can become 'members of the family'

       What else could also happen besides sucking the nipples? The whole matter is reprehensible and disgusting and yet it is part and parcel of Muhmmad's legacy ***        

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 30.12
Suckling of Older People
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ibn Shihab that he was asked about the suckling of an older person. He said, ''Urwa ibn az-Zubayr informed me that Abu Hudhayfa ibn Utba ibn Rabia, one of the companions of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, who was present at Badr, adopted Salim (who is called Salim, the mawla of Abu Hudhayfa) as the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, adopted Zayd ibn Haritha.

He thought of him as his son, and Abu Hudhayfa married him to his brother's sister, Fatima bint al-Walid ibn Utba ibn Rabia, who was at that time among the first emigrants. She was one of the best unmarried women of the Quraysh. When Allah the Exalted sent down in His Book what He sent down about Zayd ibn Haritha, 'Call them after their true fathers. That is more equitable in the sight of Allah. If you do not know who their fathers were then they are your brothers in the deen and your mawali,' (Sura 33 ayat 5) people in this position were traced back to their fathers. When the father was not known, they were traced to their mawla.

"Sahla bint Suhayl who was the wife of Abu Hudhayfa, and one of the tribe of Amr ibn Luayy, came to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, and said, 'Messenger of Allah! We think of Salim as a son and he comes in to see me while I am uncovered. We only have one room, so what do you think about the situation?' The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, 'Give him five drinks of your milk and he will be mahram by it.' She then saw him as a foster son.

A'isha umm al-muminin took that as a precedent for whatever men she wanted to be able to come to see her. She ordered her sister, Umm Kulthum bint Abi Bakr as-Siddiq and the daughters of her brother to give milk to whichever men she wanted to be able to come in to see her.

The rest of the wives of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, refused to let anyone come in to them by such nursing. They said, 'No! By Allah! We think that what the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, ordered Sahla bint Suhayl to do was only an indulgence concerning the nursing of Salim alone. No! By Allah! No one will come in upon us by such nursing!'
"This is what the wives of the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, thought about the suckling of an older person."

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 30.14
Suckling of Older People
Yahya related to me from Malik from Yahya ibn Said that a man said to Abu Musa al-Ashari, "I drank some milk from my wife's breasts and it went into my stomach." Abu Musa said, "I can only but think that she is haram for you." Abdullah ibn Masud said, "Look at what opinion you are giving the man." Abu Musa said, "Then what do you say?" Abdullah ibn Masud said, "There is only kinship by suckling in the first two years."
Abu Musa said, "Do not ask me about anything while this learned man is among you."

Al-Muwatta Hadith
Hadith 30.15  Suckling in General
Yahya related to me from Malik from Abdullah ibn Dinar from Sulayman ibn Yasar and from Urwa ibn az-Zubayr from A'isha umm al-muminin, that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, " What is haram by birth is haram by suckling."

Al-Muwatta Hadith  Hadith 49.35
General Section on Food and Drink
Yahya said that Malik was asked, "Can a woman eat with other than her relative or slave?" Malik said, "There is no harm in that if it is in a manner which is accepted for a woman to eat with men."
Malik said, "A woman sometimes eats with her husband and with others he dines with or with her brother in the same way. It is disapproved of for a woman to be alone with a man when there is no relationship between them by blood, marriage or suckling that would prevent him marrying her."

Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 3.815        Narrated byAisha
Once the Prophet came to me while a man was in my house. He said, "O 'Aisha! Who is this (man)?" I replied, "My foster brother." He said, "O 'Aisha! Be sure about your foster brothers, as fostership is only valid if it takes place in the suckling period (before two years of age)."

Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 7.35        Narrated byAisha
(regarding) the Verse:  "And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans..."  (4.3)  It is about the orphan girl who is in the custody of a man who is her guardian, and he intends to marry her because of her wealth, but he treats her badly and does not manage her property fairly and honestly. Such a man should marry women of his liking other than her, two or three or four. "Prohibited to you (for marriage) are: ...your foster-mothers (who suckled you)." (4.23) Marriage is prohibited between persons having a foster suckling relationship corresponding to a blood relationship which renders marriage unlawful.

       *** Only marriage is prohibited among sucklings, NOT intercourse, legal or illegal***

Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 7.39        Narrated byAisha
that the Prophet entered upon her while a man was sitting with her. Signs of answer seemed to appear on his face as if he disliked that. She said, "Here is my (foster) brother." He said, "Be sure as to who is your foster brother, for foster suckling relationship is established only when milk is the only food of the child."


Al-Tirmidhi HadithHadith 3173        Narrated byUmm Salamah
Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "The only suckling which makes marriage unlawful is that which is taken from the breast and enters the bowels, and is taken before the time of weaning."
Tirmidhi transmitted it.

Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 3414        Narrated byAisha
Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: One suckling or two do not make (marriage) unlawful.

Sahih Muslim HadithHadith 3427        Narrated byAisha
Umm Salamah said to Aisha: A young boy who is at the threshold of puberty comes to you. I, however, do not like that he should come to me, whereupon Aisha said: Don't you see in Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) a model for you? She also said: The wife of AbuHudhayfah said: Messenger of Allah, Salim comes to me and now he is a (grown-up) person, and there is something that (rankles) in the mind of AbuHudhayfah about him, whereupon Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: Suckle him (so that he may become your foster-child), and thus he may be able to come to you (freely).

       *** There is NO AMBIGUITY here since she already  asserted that he was a youn man of the age of PUBERTY.

       These Hadiths describe the most DEPRAVED, most CAVALIER and most IMMORAL attitude towards sexuality and blood relationships anywhere in human history base upon the say so of an alleged prophet called Muhammad.

       Only recently, this very same subject was raised by an Al Azhar scholar who was attacked in the Arab press NOT for telling a lie BUT for harming 'the reputation of Islam'.

       Since what he wrote about is in the Muhammadan Muslim Hadiths, why is the Arab news media ashamed ? ***